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sides are looking at if fiscal cliff right now and saying, well, we could go over this thing. it wouldn't be the end of the world and that's a very different view in washington than it is on wall street. i can tell you that. >> eamon, thanks. i know you've got a long day ahead, a long afternoon as well. eamon javers in washington. >> isn't it unbelievable. you have this huge, looming problem, i'll wait until later this afternoon to deal with it. >> and the whole sequester was a way to deal with this later. and corker, i think, on some of the morning shows this morning, senator corker said the worst case today would be to set up another later deadline that would keep the hard questions -- >> and i think a lot of this is so abstract, but if those milk prices go up for people around this country, that's going to be the thing that gets people really animated. >> that and payroll taxes, if they go up, that will hit a lot of americans across the board. >> interesting to see a lot of the stocks today that have exposure to dairy futures, whether it's an hsy, who knows? i haven't even gone throu
will be spent on what's at hand right now obviously with the fiscal cliff, and obviously what we do with 2013, i don't think that you're going to see a lot of regulation questioned, asked during 2013. >> okay. >> i think this one is one stock that will benefit. you'll see the analysts start to upgrade it. >> that being b of a. >> wait until the dow goes higher on your list for 2013. >> we don't do anything with respect to the theories of the dogs of the dow, but the generic sense of buying laggards for future outperformers is a broad one. higher growth names outperforming versus last year which was more defensive. what you do is look at the real laggards, hp and intel come to mind real quickly. >> right. >> they are down low for very good reasons. they are reason to be the desk top computing is definitely under siege with more mobile computing. the management issues with hp. all of those things need to be ironed out and as a result the stocks have underperformed. >> are you saying you would buy those here? >> we don't own them right now and not contemplating buying them right now. talk about str
right. well who needs washington? starbucks actually has a plan to brew a fiscal cliff deal. now in a letter to starbucks employees ceo howard schultz asked employees at its d.c. area store to write, come together, on coffee cups when serving customers thursday and friday. rather than be bystanders you and your customers have the opportunity and i believe we all have a responsibility to send our elected officials a respectful but pointed message, urging them to come together to find common ground. this is not the first time starbucks has taken a political stand. during the debt ceiling debate in august 2011, schultz made a splash calling for boycott of political contributions it u.s. lawmakers until they struck a bipartisan deal. starbucks shares at this point down slightly, 48 cents. imagine john boehner going into starbucks and they write on the cup, come together. hello. lori: boehner, this is directly to you. tracy: exactly. howard schultz is on the campaign to fix the debt. he is one of the ceos that has come out. lori: he has nothing to lose being advocate, being outspoken.
. >> with that perspective, how did the country get to the situation that we are in right now, not just the fiscal cliff but the debate over the deficit and the debt that is behind this? >> well, if you go back to 2001 and thereafter, the cost of the war was not included in the budget except the military and the defense budget. but the additional costs were not reflected in the budget. there were always supplementals. so they didn't show as a deficit. a vendor ackley to the debt. so while the budgets were reasonable in that period of time, the actual spending didn't show in the budget and people didn't pay as much attention to the debt as they do today because it kept mounting and so we borrowed to pay for the war and in fact we didn't ask people to make sacrifices financially. >> there is a difference between borrowing in the future, paying for work and paying back words, we are having to pay right now. people might have felt differently if they had felt the pinch right at that time. we would have asked different questions and were asked, and i think that is one of the reasons we got where we are. and
gordon and stan colander. thank you for coming back. as we stand on the edge of the fiscal cliff right now, any chance that we do not go over? guest: that is pretty small. we are relying on the senate to avoid this -- to avoid a filibuster. then we are relying on the house who for the last several weeks could not take the lead. it is important to state that while the official deadline is december 31. they can continue to work until the new congress on january 3. we have more like three days for them to get something together. host: are we going over the cliff? what does it mean if we do? guest: in some sense, we're going over the cliff even if they reach a deal. when you look at the deal they have been talking about, there will still be a lot left for future decision making. even if they are able to extend tax cuts for the middle class and do not do much of anything else, you still have the haphazard dealmaking not touching any of the issues the parties said they were concerned about leading into the fiscal cliff. the payroll tax cut is going to expire. no one is talking about extendin
, and the legislation they came up with, jeff, contributed o the fiscal cliff that we're facing right now. >> glor: the president says this just keeps happening again and again. nancy cordes, thank you. income taxes won't be the only taxes going up if there's no agreement. estate taxes paid by those who inherit property will also jump. here's john blackstone. >> reporter: jeff page owns 120- cre vineyard in california's napa valley. but when his great-grandfather started farming here in the late 1800s, this was cattle country. >> both sides of the family came en before the turn of the century, and farmed orchard fruit and cattle. he reporter: but much of the land he grew up on is gone, sold to pay estate taxes after his grandfather's death. had land back in the hills over there? >> yeah. >> reporter: had to sell it all. >> had to sell all of it? i reporter: estate tax? >> yes. >> reporter: his grandfather died in 1972 when estate taxes were at an all-time high: 77%. >> it was a big tax bill. it was half-a-million dollars. we sold off 150 acres; gave us hemething to pay the tax with. >> reporter: n
like this? "the kudlow report" starts right now. let's get the latest on the snag on the fiscal cliff talks and surprise news we are going to reach the debt ceiling in days instead of just a few months. john harwood has the details. what's going on? >> not a whole lot of actions going on. although there have been some developments. let me bring our viewers up to date on those. first of all, treasury secretary geithner this afternoon announced the united states would hit the statutory debt limit on monday. that's new year's eve. that's part of an effort to pressure congress to act to raise the debt limit which may or may not be direct limb reply indicated in the fiscal cliff talks but it is relevant to the larger issue of debt and deficits. the treasury can move money around in certain ways to extend the point where we actually reach a crisis for probably a couple of months. but this is an early warning sign. secondly, republicans in the house sent word to democrats in the senate, white house, it is your turn now. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that
around -- oh, they're coming back. that's right. they're part of the fiscal cliff power panel. >>> let's turn to the market sell-off. the dow going down 158 pointis and want you to see the after-market numbers and the futures, something called the futures continue to trade and they suggest that if the dow jones industrial average were to open right now it would be down 315 points. the nasdaq would be down a whopping 51 and the s&p 500 down 39. here now is larry glazer from the mayflower advisers and director at tjm institutional services. guys, when we open on monday, is it going to look that bad? jim? >> it depends on what happens. this is the way uncertainty works, but, you know, i thought for a month that one of two things was possible, one that we go over the cliff and the republicans have ground cover to be lowering taxes and not raising them or these are guys who crave the stage. how are they not going to take it down to the 11th hour? they'll never be able to stand in front of their constituents and say they fought the good fight and by my logic it's still december 28th. this is
the the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes as of right now set to go up january 1st. do we have the countdown clock up? we'll get that up later, but here is where congressional leaders and the president stand on the fiscal cliff, listen. >> but whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect, some people are going to like it, some people like it less, but that's where we are and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can. >> a good meeting down to the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make hess to his conference and we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody can get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jo
the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods and services, and the better off the country will be. let's get back to work. allow t
because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not delivered solutions to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that it would give to middle class americans. that -- that passed the senate. now, we know the republicans have buried themselves in procedural roadblocks in everything we're trying to do out here and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue slipped, because it will be blue slipped. mr. president, how does the american people retook the that? there was a bill introduced by the ranking member of the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin, that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it, but he couldn't kill it and then we moved to plan "b," the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd, he meaning the speaker, so it's very clear now, mr. president, that the speakers's number on
is afraid of is that the bill will actually pass and then we would avoid going over the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods a
average. there are fears that we're heading over the fiscal cliff. the markets had weak data. consumer confidence for the month of november which, again, reflected concerns that we were headed over the fiscal cliff. the dow, nasdaq and s&p all negative for the month right now. as we take a look at the dow jones industrial average, the drags are cisco system, bank of america. the best performing stock on the dow for this year following its very poor performance in the prior year, alcoa also weaker along with jpmorgan and h hewlett-packa hewlett-packard. 50 day average, when it breaks below that on decent volume, the down side the traders are watching the levels as we came into today's session. groups that are leading the s&p lower are financials which are the best performing sector of 2012. taking a turn south in today's session. energy and materials actually also joining the fray among the leading laggers within the sectors that we followed. we also wanted to point out jcpenney. it was an outlier and today it reverses. it's having its worst day in six weeks, i believe. the reason being
, right? gregg: stay in bed. heather: more on the fiscal cliff. president obama and top congressional leaders set to meet at the white house in about 30 minutes in a last-ditch effort to avoid tax increases on nearly all americans and a fiscal crisis, but what we've heard so far a is lot of fingerpointing. no solutions. no signs of progress for president obama. this left haven't hour scramble represents a test how he would balance the power of his re-election with his commitment to compromise. so who is to blame if both sides can't bridge the divide? tara dowdell, democratic strategist, with former jim mcgreevey and david webb, accident cirrus xm patriot radio. good to see both of you. i want to begin with this. last night on fox news, this is what south carolina senator lindsey graham had to say about this meeting today. he said, quote, anytime you announce a meeting publicly in washington it's usually for political theater purposes. so, tara, is this all show? >> well i agree, obviously there is always some political theater going on in politics. i would say this year's oscar though
-wise and the s&p is down 3.33 at 1423. five days left until the fiscal cliff deadline, and though the market has been very resilient to this point, what happens if we go over the cliff and if lawmakers cannot get it together come january 1st? will it be a big meltdown for wall street? that's what everybody wants to know. >> certainly hope know. in today's "closing bell" exchange, former chief economist of the vice president joe biden, oliver perch from gary goldberg and matt cheslock and rick santelli, thank you very much. jarred, you wrote an article called "cliff dive, what the heck happens next?" what does happen next? >> well, that's actually all up to john boehner, as i see it, because if we were to decide to bring the president's most recent small car compromise to the house i actually believe it would pass. the problem for him it would probably pass with mostly democrat vote, but i think it could get through the senate. that's the only scenario i see by which we avoid going over the cliff. >> wait a minute. >> at least temporarily. >> wait a minute, jared. john boehner said it's up to the
to serve. >>> fiscal cliff fears pushing stocks lower but we're well off those lows right now and news that the house will reconvene on sunday evening at 6:30 p.m. eastern time. let's get to seemor, modi with more on this. >> hi, mandy, off of our lows, but today a risk-off approach to trading. that's a strategy being used as wall street is waiting by for the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. interestingly enough when you look at the year-to-date performance of the major indices, the nasdaq is the outperformer, however. for q4, just this last quarter, the nasdaq is the worst performing major index. some is down about half a percent today. lastly, one of the bright spots in the online travel space that i want to point your attention to, expedia.com. no major news hepthelping lift the stock. however, traders telling me that technically the stock looks strong. even on twitter you'll see that there are a lot of traders tweeting about this stock, up about 3 president 6%. bill? >> all right. seema, thank you very much. meantime, nokia's shares lower -- they were early on by more than
's the bigger news, right? not the fiscal cliff but the fact that tim geithner announced that the debt ceiling will be hit on december 31st, that he has extraordinary measures to take to delay it a little bit, but we're now in a serious situation. the fiscal cliff was a semi-serious situation. this is a very serious situation. >> what you've got, these two things coming together, the cliff and the debt ceiling, you'll have market reactions that reinforces the sense of unpredictability. if you're an investor, if you're running a business, what you want to know is what the playing field is. you want to know what the rules are. nobody knows anything. it means basically things begin to come to a halt. internationally, it raises all sorts of questions about our competence, our seriousness, our reputation. and these are people who are investing here, who are providing us also with the means to float the deficit. these are the people providing a lot of our financing. well, at some point if this goes on long enough, they begin to think, hold it. >> who's writing a lot of our financing? >> mainly forei
: the deal under discussion in the senate right now doesn't even include the biggest part of the fiscal cliff, that 1.2 trillion dollars in mandatory budget cuts, spending cuts that are also due to kick in this tuesday. the thinking up here goes like this, let's handle the tax cuts now, and readvise the spending cuts later. >> thank you. in addition to the $500 billion in automatic tax hikes, as you just heard from wyatt, the fiscal cliff also includes 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts. congressional democrats and republicans agreed to these drastic cuts last year, to force both parties to the table on deficit reduction. if they can agree by monday at midnight, the following cut take effects. over the next nine years, the u.s. defense budget would be reduced by $455 billion. domestic programs would be slashed by 464 billion. 1,000 government programs face potential cuts, including three that directly impact air travel. john bentley has the story. >> reporter: long waits at airport security are nothing new. but if the u.s. government goes over the fiscal cliff, they could get even longer
friends on new year's eve. right now you talk about the fiscal cliff and also hitting this potential debt ceiling limit as well. $16.4 trillion we could arrive at on new year's eve. >> juliet: yeah. let's hear what congressman tray goudie had to say about this. he was on greta the other night. >> i assure you that there will be a resolution either before the new year or shortly after the new year. that's the good news, that there will be a deal. the bad news for you and your viewers is that there won't o'clock a solution. it will be a panacea or some magical alickser, make us all feel a little better. but shortly after the new year, we're also going to get a letter from timothy geithner asking us to raise the debt ceiling for the 80th time in our country's history. so there will be a quote, move to avert the fiscal cliff. your viewers should demand more than a deal. they should demand a solution. >> juliet: kimberly guilfoyle had that. >> kelly: here is a problem with all that, and i hope the congressman is right, because you want to have a sense of optimism. the president talked about be
towards a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. we know that about eight hours from now right at three o'clock here in d.c., senator mitch mcconnell and senator harry reid, the principal negotiators from the senate are going to is sit with senators from their parties down and tell them the numbers they've agreed should be in the deal and if those meetings go well, they might be able to vote tomorrow in the senate, tomorrow afternoon. the house of representatives though would then need to support it, too, before it can become a law and we heard last night a little bit of what republicans there are worried about at this stage. >> it's about making sure that we can live within our means and address the real problem and that's spending. i kind of feel like i'm a lifeguard and we've got to save as many people from drowning in higher taxes that we can. >> reporter: one of the big sticking points so far has been the income threshold for tax increases, basically trying to figure out who should be classified as wealthy and who should count as middle class. president obama wanted $250,000 per hou
. how would you handle the fiscal cliff? go vote finance.yahoo.com. the results are coming up. there you see your options. michelle. >>> tyler, one of cnbc's best known traders making a very bold call. get out of everything, everything, all cash. get the take of other -- two other wall street trading pros in two minutes. see if they agree. >>> hi. i'm steven yee. i'm the operating partner of the exchange bar and grill. i'm annoyed. i'm annoyed with the fiscal cliff. we're looking at not knowing what's going to happen. we fall off this cliff and everyone gets affected. there's no trickle down effect, it's more like a slush. we will lose income. the question is how much income are we going to lose? if we fall off the cliff the fear is that we fall off the cliff, not slowly glide down the cliff. government at this point needs to understand that we should be able to trust you to do the right things. put politics aside. think about us, the people. that's why we have government. fix it. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be r
obama cutting his vacation short to avoid the fiscal cliff but house speaker john boehner says the people who need to take action are not in the oval office. >>> as the investigation continues into the deaths of four americans in libya we're learning people who were initially blamed are back on the payroll with little or no punishment. >>> unbelievable video. some aquariumgoers getting way too close to a real live shark. as close as you can get without becoming dinner. it is all "happening now." harris: hello, everyone, i'm harris faulkner, in today for jenna lee. jon: nice to have you up here in the big studio instead of down in the newsroom. harris: good to be here. jon: i'm jon scott. there is deadly weather pounding the united states. a powerful winter storm bringing snow and driving rain to the northeast. blizzard conditions in some areas. it is the same system that brought winter storms and tornados to the south and midwest. at least 12 people have died in this system. we're seeing major travel problems today as well. some areas are getting slammed all night long. anna ko
about the fiscal cliff meeting that just broke up between the president and congressional leaders and that there were some disappointed reporters, yourself included, that they didn't speak to you. >> reporter: that's right, mabdy. we always want that exclusive interview or even a non-exclusive interview, but a little bit more information here. the white house is telling -- the white house press pool was told the meeting ended at 4:15 p.m. so that puts the meeting at just over an hour all told, and i'm told that we just saw senator mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate leaving the white house here, so that gives us three out of the four congressional leaders that we've now seen going out of building. unless i'm missing senator reid here. it looks like he might still be in the building at this point. >> the republicans have left the building pretty much. >> reporter: that's right. >> leaving the democrats to talk about this. so it doesn't look that great. stay right there. let's talk about this with some market pros, morgan lander and stephen nicholas is with us, ed moy and
passed to deal with the fiscal cliff that are now over the united states senate. if the senate wants to do anything with them, amend them and send them back to the house and perhaps the house will act on it. essentially what boehner is saying is we're not making any moves until the senate amends the two bills we passed over or sends a new one. what are in those bills? well, they essentially extend the bush tax cuts permanently for all earners. and then to avert the sequester and other types of cuts, they make what a lot of liberals have called draconian cuts to meals on wheels, food stamps. it goes into discretionary spending. the house passed bills are absolutely would go nowhere. and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the response i would expect from the democratic side from the senate is hey, we passed a bill too. we passed a bill that does the same thing. why don'
and make america number one. host: do you think america's working together right now in this fiscal cliff negotiant that is causing friction in washington? caller: absolutely, it is so beautiful to see. they are doing their best. i am not there in the party, but i want to read about the differences, why america is america, and why not it is not -- why it is not other countries. i have lived in other countries for months and years. i make plans for education in 2001 for the dutch government. i always follow something for inspiration. i saw last time that the democrats and republicans, the parties, they are working so good together to make something happen. host: you think the fiscal cliff debate is a good sign for the country? caller: absolutely, it is a good sign for the country. you know, america does not need money. america is money. america needs jobs. what kind of jobs? american jobs. what is on american jobs? to do the best and to bring the best things. that is the mayor, -- the america that i see. i seek some unity. i travel around the world. i see some the young americans everywher
reid and mcconnell, they just met, but now they're saying, it wasn't about the fiscal cliff. what else is there to talk about? >> reporter: no. i think we know exactly what their new year's eve plans will be, we're going to be right here. senator reid himself said that they did not discuss that. and it seems to be that that is an indication, at least to republicans here on capitol hill, that it is the president's move next to make more clear what jessica is talking about. that the president has said publicly, he wants to do as kind of that stopgap, scaled down version. in fact, mitch mcconnell himself said in the hallway, just moments ago, that he does expect to go to the white house, as jessica just alluded to. he expects to do that tomorrow. they haven't gotten a formal invitation tomorrow. there's no time set for this meeting tomorrow, but mitch mcconnell says he does expect to go. and so that really does speak to the next move, tomorrow. >> well, that is good news. that is good news, senator mcconnell going to the white house tomorrow, hopefully. but i'm going to ask you about the
will avoid the fiscal cliff. if it doesn't, we're no worse off than we are right now in trying to find another alternative. >> congressman, i want to ask you a question and throw the ball forward a little bit. once we fingers crossed get over the cliff, i'm really interested in the republican party and what the policy solutions are and what the policy answers to the shrinking of the middle class, to inequality, to the really big picture growth questions in this country that are going to continue on. so far the answers have been tax cuts, but trickle down hasn't been working for some time. i wonder what you think about that and how that will unfold. >> that's a critical question, and i was listening to your earlier conversation. the dpakt of the matter is there's a powerful segment among the house republicans who just want to totally ignore the outcome of the past laekdzs. it's one thing to disagree on policy and another thing to try and use your power to simply obstruct the process. we see people that want to obstruct the process. speaker bayne her is giving them the power to do that.
on the fiscal cliff, but there is no guarantee of success because the parties are still far apart. rebecca and jeff in. >> all right, chip thank you very much. >>> the world's largest coffee chain is sending a message to congress about the fiscal cliff. for the rest of the week, employees in the washington, d.c., area will all write "come together" on starbucks cups instead of consumers' names. in an online letter starbucks ceo howard schultz says the company has responsibility to send a respectful and optimistic message. >>> hawaii lieutenant governor brian schatz was chosen yesterday to succeed senator daniel inouye who died last week. schatz is now flying to washington on air force one with president obama. he could be sworn in as early as today. >>> we may swear to our doctors that we're getting checked for cancer, but a new study finds we're actually dropping the ball. the university of miami study found the general public did not meet any government recommendations for cancer screenings except for colorectal cancer. cancer survivors had higher screening rates
, it's not going to be anything where they reached the fiscal cliff. but there's not enough agreement to have the rank and file members do anything. it is still at the top level leadership discussions. the senate is going to try to finish work on a sandy disaster aid supplemental bill which they have been trying to get done for weeks. they are hoping to finish that today and also trying to work on a foreign intelligence surveillance act authorization extension. there's enough on the floor to keep them busy. the question is whether they will have something to vote on may be on christmas eve. on sunday joe lieberman indicated we would all be working new year's eve. we will see that happens. >> online, we have a special page set up related to the so- called fiscal cliff. you could watch video of hearings and briefings. there is a live stream of comments from viewers and reporters. that is all at c-span.org cli cliff.l >> it is a great resource for anyone to know the ins and outs of capitol hill. >> julie watches c-span on verizon. brought to you as a public service by your television pro
will begin to define his second term. he was elected to lead. we can still avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and the democrat- controlled senate step forward this week to solve this problem. >> we also talked to washington post reporter lori montgomery for an update on the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> what kind of a deal did the president offer, and what is new in the negotiations among the senators and between the senators and the white house? >> it does not appear to be anything new. the policies they're talking about are the same policies that have been on the table for weeks and weeks. what is new is that they seem to have finally agreed they're going to move forward with something. there is no guarantee that the republican leader and the democratic leader will be able to put together an agreement. at least they are now saying they will try to do it. they're working together and aiming towards a vote either late sunday or monday. >> what is the scuttlebutt among the rank-and-file senators about whether or not they're going to be able to pull this off before the end of t
on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs from one side to the other and it's not clear as a result of all that whether a deal can, in fact, get hammered out in the remaining time before new year's eve and take a listen to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell earlier today explaining the problems he's facing in washington. take a listen. >> the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we do know that the house of representatives has been told that the members there should be back in town here in washington
on the fiscal cliff some time in the next four days and 14 hours. that's coming up at 11 a.m. "squawk on the street" will be right back. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> second day in a row retailers led the losers list. simon who can is here with what is coming up at 10. >> we will talk about where the markets are going to go from here, fiscal cliff, positioning for 2013 and kim co-on the program, one of the biggest owners of american malls. how are they faring as america spikes again? apple, a four-year low, they are experime experiments, carl, as you mentioned with curved glass. >> simon, looking forward to see you. >>> chicago drive mayors ring in the new year with reluctant, starting in january, they will be shelling out more for downtown parking meters than drivers in any other city across the country. the cost to park at a metered spot will rise to $6.50 a hour, double what drivers paid in 2008. so
the fiscal cliff, while many consumer can't articulate each individual item and element of the cliff, they know there's something not good going on with the economy right now. and if it's op the front line of every newspaper and it's the headline and lead story of every television show, that starts to seep into consumer psyche. that i think will play a role. >> mr. shay, that said, and you've said it, do you think that your 4% estimate for year-on-year growth was perhaps overly optimistic in view of what is unfolding on capitol hill, and evident on every front page this morning? >> simon, i don't think so. we're not ready to go there yet. mastercard's assessment of .7 this year compares to 2% last year. and our prediction of 4% this year compares to 5.5%, 5.6% a year ago. they don't measure the market the same way. they look at a much smaumer slice. they don't have online sales. i'm not sure how they get the proprietary data from the competitors. we're going to wait until we see all the numbers and make a final assessment when they come in. >> sure. but equally what you're both talki
. as soon as we get through the fiscal cliff -- the hope is we would replace the fiscal cliff with real policies that would keep us from going over it. now looks as though we're not going to be able to do anything to tackle the challenges right now. the partisan environment is getting worse and worse. that leaves us with questions about whether these guys can govern. host: front page of "the new york times." let me read a few points. "more difficult to reach a compromise." guest: that is absolutely true. i feel we're watching a game of finger-pointing and not much else. both sides are pointing fingers and shouting it is the other guy's fault. what if any other business environment worked this way instead of solving the problems and working together? the toxic environment calls into question when we of challenges or other important issues -- can the american political system step up and deal with sit? the answer is not very well. we feel saddened and disappointed by our ability to rise to the challenge of fixing the problems. host: some of that is aimed at you. you come up in this column
with the fiscal cliff. i'm looking now to congress and say, pass the amt patch today. >> gretchen: all right. we'll see if they're listening to marty, a cpa who is a little nutsoutrig to get everything done before year's end. >> thank you very much. >> gretchen: georgetown cup cakes secret ingredient this new year, champagne? we're showing you how it make the party even sweeter with sophie. yep, she's just one part of the team with our others and she's here hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. >> gretchen: welcome back. wicked weather like this wreaking havoc on airports across the country. what can travelers expect? wfxt's katherine is live at logan international airport with the latest op the travel nightmare out of boston. good morning. >> good morning, gretchen. the sun is shining on us here in boston. but flights already beginning to be affected by the storm. flights going to dallas, columbus and
right. the other day he said with regard to the fiscal cliff, you guys have to look at what's best for the country. i thought he is speaking to the issue of people who don't like him. it surprised me the response from people on the far right -- obama is so egotistical and he has become so arrogant that he thinks it is about him. yes, some people are constantly deriding this guy and have a personal. i did not think it was inappropriate for him to pointed out. host: dependent line, arlington, texas -- caller: white isn't anybody pointing out the social security problem we have is that democrats and republicans have both spent all the money that was supposed to be allocated to it. that is part of our debt but all of the politicians have spent all that money including the president, of course. nobody really brings that up. secondly, on the budget, why doesn't anybody really give the facts about how much $1 trillion is and how much is $16 trillion. ? it is such a large amount of money, we keep pushing it to the side. guest: is a good point, people understand how big this is. it is hard
money" later tonight. watch "power lunch" right now. >>> "halftime" is over. "power lunch" starts right now. >> merry cliff-mas, everybody. five days left and still no deal. president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech. gadgets and gizmos. apple, facebook, microsoft all have big news. will 2013 be a lucky year for the sector? which tech titans might lead the new trends? simon hobbs is in at the new york stock exchange. >> good afternoon. when president obama arrives back in d.c., can he prevent america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood,
one week left before the country goes over the fiscal cliff. your taxes will soar if congress and the president can't reach a deal. so steve is live for us in washington with the very latest. all right, good morning to you, steve. >> good morning, gretchen. yeah, the house as you know, tried and failed to pass some kind of a compromise on that fiscal cliff. now the spotlight falls on the u.s. senate. some kind of deal could have a better chance there because the senate is not as bitterly divided as the house. success depends partly on whether mitch mcconnell decides to filibuster any legislation. there is senate republicans who are willing to compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. including kay bailey hutchison of texas and johnny isakson of georgia. >> time is running out. and the truth of the matter is, if we do fall off the cliff after the president's maturitied, he'll come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday in leaving washington and we'll end up adopting it. why should we put the markets mn such turmoil and the people in misunderstanding or lack of confi
in a bikini have to do with the fiscal cliff? ask "the new york post." there she is on today's front page leaping off an actual cliff. off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt. that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching haum, the place for politics. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your lega
in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, yeah, i would be. you know, i think it is remarkable that right after the election we get this thing that comes right up in our faces that basically outlines in bold relief the differences in the two ideas about how we go forward in this country. it is really excellent timing, and we may have to go over the cliff, if it is forced into it. but this idea that you bring down the cost of medicare by making it unavailable to more people is a terrible idea of mr. boehner's. the idea -- i would be terribly upset, along with many of my friends, if obama compromised too much on what needs to happen that is called the fiscal cliff. >> do you think a prominent third-party would help our country? >> i felt strongly about that when i supported john anderson in 1979. he was -- a large part of anderson's campaign was to sue the state ballot procedure into allowing third parties to have more access to the electoral process. i would like to see a third party available, but that, too, seems like a really tall order. >> what do you think is the appropriat
decade but wrong the next. tighter regulations might be right one decade but is corrosive steps in, the regulation may be in order. madam president, as we confront the confluence of issues known as the fiscal cliff, we are at a moment of major significance and requires the application of principles that brooks describes. for the sake of the country, we must demonstrate to the american people that we are capable of making the big decisions by putting in place an agreement and a framework to avoid the fiscal cliff before we adjourn this year. madam president, we are surrounded by history perpetually here in the senate as well as throughout the capital. how could we not be inspired by its rise to this occasion? indeed, if you know history you understand very story of america's most formative days were defined by an understanding that effective governance required the building of consensus and that such consensus is achievable even after the exercise of passionate advocacy. in conclusion, this brings us back to the creation of the document we all cherish and revere -- the united states
difference to a lot of american families. going over the fiscal cliff is avoidable. there is still time to act. but president obama and 10 eric -- and harry reid believe it is one that can pass both houses. republicans agree. republicans have taken the step in the right direction. they pass legislation to replace this with responsible target it once and to bring our nation record debt under control. instead of considering the house plan to protect taxpayers democrats have spent months drawn partisan lines in the stands. the tax hike would only funds the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what the president proposes we do for the other 357 days a year. inaction should not be a problem. the problems facing our country are baked but not all that complicated. -- are big but not all that complicated. the next two days will begin to define the president's second term. he was elected to lead. >> we also got an update from oulaurie mcginley this morning. >> what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new on the negotiations among and between the centers in the white
for the things we thought was right. >> thank you for spending time with this reflecting back on your ears in washington. -- years in washington. >> we are asking business owners to come in and talk about the fiscal cliff and their plans for the next year. we will continue with the forecast for the housing market with the chief economist with the national association of realtors. fall by more discussion of the fiscal cliff negotiations -- followed by more discussion of the fiscal cliff negotiations. and a discussion on background checks. how they work, who gets them, and when they are required. our guest is matt bennett with the third wayl . on "washington journal" at 7:00 a.m. >> kent conrad is retiring. the north dakota democrat talk about partisanship in the senate and his time working on economic issues including his service on the bulls simpson commission. -- bowles-simpson commission. this is 30 years. fulle're talking in a week o of farewell speeches. what is that like? >> it has been great. i have that going away party the night before. a lot of my colleagues were there. then the f
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